"Dark chocolate" (amghybridss)
04/12/2018 at 15:08 • Filed to: None
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"Dark chocolate" (amghybridss)
04/12/2018 at 15:08 • Filed to: None | 1
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We are looking at replacing our V8 Navigator L with another 3-row SUV. Currently we average approx 13 mpg over 25 miles daily.
The replacement vehicle will deal with extreme traffic (stop-n-go) and will be used 60 miles a day. And looks like in that scenario it averages 11.5 mpg over 60 miles. So it’s important that it be efficient or maybe hybrid of some sort.
Also, it needs to have three rows, with a total seating for at least 7.
Needs to accommodate 3 car seats plus 4 adults.
Range of vehicles I have looked at:
CPO MB GL 350 blutec: mpg and space
CPO Audi Q7 3.0 TDi
NEW VW Atlas 2.0T is efficient too.
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I need more suggestions. I am trying to push my wife towards a large sedan.
Almost a NO :
Tesla Model X: mpge works in our favor, but it’s VERY expensive.
350 Infiniti OX60 Hybrid - mpg and usable space - Looks like a van (Wife and me are both against vans)
Pleas HALP!
Textured Soy Protein
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 15:22 |
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For new...Mazda CX-9? The Atlas 2.0t is only fwd so thats what I listed here.
Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 15:33 |
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Unfortunately I don’t have anything constructive to say outside of that. Maybe the Honda Pilot? Or... you know... Odyssey.
KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 15:35 |
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https://www.toyota.com/highlanderhybrid/
$36,670 starting msrp goes up to $48,280 30/28 est. mpg 300HP 7 seater Reliability Resale
https://www.cars.com/reviews/2017-toyota-highlander-hybrid-our-view-1420694706349/
DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 15:49 |
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I’ll echo the mini van, just embrace it. The pacifica hybrid checks all your boxes, pretty good looking too
ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 15:49 |
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Efficient=/=SUV; solution invalid. Invoke Minivan protocol.
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Dark chocolate
> Textured Soy Protein
04/12/2018 at 15:59 |
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Funny I was on Mazda’s website looking at the updated CX-9.
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Dark chocolate
> Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo
04/12/2018 at 16:01 |
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I am fine who ever decides to drive mini-van. Fortunately, both me and my wife agree on this one aspect that we won’t have a mini-van in our household, ever. But thanks for playing.
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Dark chocolate
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/12/2018 at 16:02 |
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I hate Toyota / Lexus. I wish XC90 had more space.
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Dark chocolate
> DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By
04/12/2018 at 16:02 |
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Neighbor has it. Looks good in his driveway.
Funktheduck
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:03 |
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I rode in an Uber new CX-9 recently. Short trip but it was quite nice
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Dark chocolate
> Funktheduck
04/12/2018 at 16:06 |
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I might go checkout a CX-9. Pretty soon. I wish GM would put a fuckin’ diesel in the tahor / enclave
Long-Voyager
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:10 |
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Why buy a denial minivan when a real minivan will do you much better in every aspect?
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:11 |
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Do you hate Honda or no?
Pilot- $30,900 STARTING MSRP
27/19HWY / CITY MPG RATING
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2018-honda-pilot-in-depth-model-review
https://jalopnik.com/the-2017-honda-pilot-is-for-when-you-just-cant-buy-the-1796416878
I also highly recommend the Mazda Cx-9 great turbo, fantastic interior and good space
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Long-Voyager
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:11 |
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If you buy a modern SUV that’s not bof (aka CUV), you may as well buy a minivan. It’s the same thing only more useful in every aspect.
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Dark chocolate
> Long-Voyager
04/12/2018 at 16:15 |
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i guess its called personal preference. It’s not that we don;t like Mini-vans, We actually HATE them. So No Mini-vans. Because of that reason, the Infiniti QX is an almost NO.
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ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:16 |
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Lexus has a new 3-row RX that also comes with a hybrid powertrain. However, your requirements of 3 car seats AND 4 adults rules this out as the 3rd row of seats are rather tiny and a normal adult would NOT want to sit back there for long at all.
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Dark chocolate
> Long-Voyager
04/12/2018 at 16:16 |
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I agree with you and everyone who says minivan is more practical. But I am not looking for more practical and I am not looking for a mini-van.
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DucST3-Red-1Liter-Standing-By
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:20 |
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no shame in the man who makes no bones about his fatherly duties! I certainly admire that!
CobraJoe
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:25 |
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I sat in one of the new VW Atlases at the last auto show, it’s pretty darn spacious inside. Full size adults in all 3 rows with actual knee room, and the middle row seat folds up to make accessing the back seat pretty easy.
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Funktheduck
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:34 |
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I think diesel isn’t long for mainstream vehicles
shop-teacher
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:47 |
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I’m not sure why people have such a hard time understanding this. My wife and I are on the same wavelength. Why would we pay money for something we don’t want?
Levitas
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:51 |
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If you can wait, I’d imagine that there is a hybrid Explorer coming since the recently announced Aviator is going to have a plug-in option.
nermal
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:52 |
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How about get a new crew cab pickup, with a cap on the back. It doesn’t really matter which brand, pick the one that looks best to you. The bed area could them be considered the “Punishment Zone”, and whichever adult or child is most deserving has to bounce around back there while the other 6 get a nice comfy seat up front.
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Long-Voyager
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 16:56 |
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Honest opinion here: Everything you listed is a minivan.
I understand the dislike, I used to share the same view, as did my wife. Then we drove 3rd row CUVs and minivans back to back, that was the deciding factor.
Every 3rd row CUV was cramped, got far worse mileage, and handled worse. After dealing with getting the kids in and out of them, we decided ease of use was far more important than upholding some image that doesn’t exist.
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Dark chocolate
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/12/2018 at 17:07 |
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I love Honda / Acura. My only issue is I have “slight” beef with the road noise when we were in a Pilot last time around. Also how it looks is not kinda not as god as the updated highlander
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 17:15 |
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There’s an MDX Hybird but it’s super fucking expensive
BASE PRICES: Technology, $52,935; Advance, $58,975
EPA combined/city/highway driving: 27/26/27 mpg
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Dark chocolate
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/12/2018 at 17:28 |
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Yeah, at that price, I’d rather keep driving the Navigator L and pay an extra 2k in fuel cost every year.. rather than pay 10k in depreciation the moment i drive it off
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Dark chocolate
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/12/2018 at 17:28 |
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Yeah, at that price, I’d rather keep driving the Navigator L and pay an extra 2k in fuel cost every year.. rather than pay 10k in depreciation the moment i drive it off
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Dark chocolate
> Long-Voyager
04/12/2018 at 17:49 |
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Honestly it is not.
Everything is not a minivan.
Everything maybe less practical than a minivan but it is not a minivan
Everything maybe inferior to a minivan, but it is not a minivan.
Everything maybe less efficient and more costly than a minivan, but it is not a minivan.
MB GL is not a minivan.
Audi Q7 is not a minivan.
Atlas 2.0T not a minivan.
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Infiniti Qx60 is a minivan.
Wobbles the Mind
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 18:09 |
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You really need a 2+2+3 or 2+3+3 vehicle. A 2+3+2 seems like a waste of your time to even look at.
That said, you should check over something like the Subaru Ascent. The top end models are rated at 20 in the city, which is crazy good and run regular 87 (which will save you more than economy if 91 and 93 end up costing $1 more per gallon over regular in the future).
You’ll also get the advantage of high resale value from it being a Subaru (the most premium product they have ever offered at that) AND a large utility.
No matter what you find, I strongly recommend investigating 3rd rows that can seat three since that will work best as everyone grows as well.
boxrocket
> Dark chocolate
04/12/2018 at 23:55 |
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Volvo XC90 T8 Hybrid?
Range Rover.
Lincoln Navigator/Ford Expedition, especially the longer models.
Ford Transit (yes, it’s a van, but it exceeds all requirements by the widest margin).
Grindintosecond
> Dark chocolate
04/13/2018 at 04:29 |
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The newest newnew Odyssey, my wife finalky said about a minivan, actually looks good. Its your solution. Efficient. Just go drive one and let it prove you right or wrong.
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Dark chocolate
> boxrocket
04/13/2018 at 09:11 |
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Volvo XC90 T8 Hybrid - yes it’s a whole lot expensive than the T6. The economics will probably not work. But there you have a 400 hp. But they do run massive discounts on those.
Range Rover.: I know it’s a joke, but those are gonna depreciate quickly and I think by the time all is said and done, you’re better of in a Tesla Model X 75D. I could be wrong.
Lincoln Navigator/Ford Expedition, especially the longer models.:: We a;ready own the 14' Navigator L. I am not sure of the incremental efficiency from the outdated V8 to the ecoboost. Specially when you bring both into a stop n go traffic. It may not be economically correct.
Ford Transit (yes, it’s a van, but it exceeds all requirements by the widest margin).: Yeah Ford Transit will not happen. :)
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boxrocket
> Dark chocolate
04/13/2018 at 12:46 |
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2018+ Navigator & Expedition have both stop/start and 10-speed transmissions. Much better on gas.
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Dark chocolate
> boxrocket
04/13/2018 at 13:16 |
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not trying o be negative, but
1) I hear they are selling really well - so less push / incentives
2) they are fairly new, so less incentives
3) 2018 models, so no CPO deals/